When I write up the V0.1 version, I was planning on putting it on my personal server and informing forum regulars so that interested parties could test it, with no assurances changes to the state of the test forum would ever reach the final one. That's the foreseeable future I think, after that I could see any result from jkbbwr saying the time was wasted and then us hosting it somewhere else, to him promising to use it and maybe doing it after 6 months or so. Getting a new domain is a bit off.
Kebap wrote:I assume you may under-estimate the amounts of work needed to surpass phpBB's functionality.
You're probably right. But if I get a free weekend, I bet I can bang out a good base in a couple days. People get quite a bit done in 24-hour hackathons.
Kebap wrote: I have some privacy concerns. While I would welcome a forum containing both "new" and "old" databases, I am not sure how to proceed doing this. When you hand over db access to anybody, they will not only have access to public postings, but also private messages, mail adresses, etc, right? This needs to be handled with special care.
All that, password hashes, IP addresses and possibly more. I think the old forum used unsalted MD5 hashes too. (Another good reason to have our own forum software; some of phpBB is seriously lacking.) Hence my asking if it would be alright. All the admins and perhaps moderators on this forum have access to that information, and I know that at least metul, myself and jkbbwr have the old dump as well. And I wasn't planning on giving it to anybody
, ochi offered to assist and if anyone has concerns about that individual sharing then I'd love to hear those concerns voiced. If someone thinks that they can write an extraction script that wouldn't require giving the forum dump to more people I'd prefer that but seriously doubt it, it seems like something that would require some experimentation.
A new forum containing both forum dumps seems pretty easy to me. There'd be a flow for claiming an old account and its posts, we could easily have all the old URLs for posts from either forum and their bookmarks redirect to the new and proper pages. We could have a video tutorial or something for new users explaining code tags. Lots of options.
hrs wrote:Has anyone tried asking Graziano for the domain (assuming he is indeed still owner)? If he's a reasonable guy he'll just hand it over as part of the deal. He did get his money right?
I'm afraid to do that, since jkbbwr promised to show a thank you banner on the site and hasn't, that Graziano would in some way be unhelpful. As it was he neglected the forum, and only came back to say he was killing it, and which led to us raising a considerable sum of money to save it because we asked if we could buy the domain from him and rather than naming a price we had a bidding war with a guy who wanted the forum data rather than to save the community, explicitly because he wanted to be able to see the email addresses. I'm not sure how legal that nastiness was but it was extraordinarily unpleasant, and if Graziano were really so reasonable I would expect him to set a fair price upfront and not offer to do business with an obvious spammer.